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> Licencing and code Issues, split from elsewhere.
OS_Ninja
post Apr 23 2011, 04:33 PM
Post #21
Someone buy that King guy a vowel please, cause he doesn't have a clue..
I'm here to set the record straight!
Hagar
post Apr 23 2011, 07:14 PM
Post #22
QUOTE (OS_Ninja @ Apr 23 2011, 04:33 PM) *
Someone buy that King guy a vowel please, cause he doesn't have a clue..


And you can quit trolling too..

It is beyond any doubt that you have misappropriated code and put your own copyright notice on it. The only question is what happens from here on.

If I were you I´d be very cautious of criticising anyone else´s behaviour for the forseeable future, and rather concentrate on contributing to the community you have so far seen fit to rip off at your own convenience.

You may not wish to be a role model, try not to be a laughing stock.
This Time We're Doing it RIGHT


THe KiNG
post Apr 24 2011, 07:46 PM
Post #23
Thanks Hagar, you are more peaceful then me, but you put the mark on right place...

@ OS_Ninja, for now you have just a warning since I can't put handcuffs on forum...

As Hagar said we know very well what you did till now, if you forgot I have irc logs from last 2 years, I can easy remind you how many times you beg IphoneTom for source and what you did after...

But that is past now, as I said in my previous message, the worst has already done, at least try to fix what can be fixed from now on.
Slice
post Apr 24 2011, 09:05 PM
Post #24
QUOTE (iPhoneTom @ Apr 20 2011, 06:00 PM) *
OS_Ninja did nothing, then steal my code.

LMAO. All sources stolen from me and others.

Yeah, now all you losers can start to pull your crap out.

LOL Losers and wimps...

Does iPhoneTom deserve the same warn as OS_Ninja?
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THe KiNG
post Apr 24 2011, 09:23 PM
Post #25
QUOTE (Slice @ Apr 25 2011, 12:05 AM) *
Does iPhoneTom deserve the same warn as OS_Ninja?

For what?

As far I know he didn't steal anything yet.

Maybe you want to elaborate your opinion more.
I do not want to think you agree and accept code stealing.
So try to keep what you code away from that(read iBoot), this is my personal opinion.
Slice
post Apr 25 2011, 06:25 AM
Post #26
QUOTE (THe KiNG @ Apr 25 2011, 01:23 AM) *
For what?

QUOTE
all you losers

He can spoke more correctly what he thinks.
QUOTE
As far I know he didn't steal anything yet.

Maybe you want to elaborate your opinion more.
I do not want to think you agree and accept code stealing.
So try to keep what you code away from that(read iBoot), this is my personal opinion.

I am free to help anybody if he can accept my help.

I am trying to remember the same history with Chameleon. Can you remind me? Initial sources was also steeled.
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THe KiNG
post Apr 25 2011, 06:52 AM
Post #27
QUOTE (Slice @ Apr 25 2011, 09:25 AM) *
He can spoke more correctly what he thinks.

I do agree he should used a better language...

QUOTE (Slice @ Apr 25 2011, 09:25 AM) *
I am free to help anybody if he can accept my help.

I was talking about CLOVER, sure you can do whatever you want, was my personal opinion...

QUOTE (Slice @ Apr 25 2011, 09:25 AM) *
I am trying to remember the same history with Chameleon. Can you remind me? Initial sources was also steeled.

There is no win to reopen the s**t box, but to do things right at least from now on.
I don't get what is so hard for some people to respect the code license and add proper credits for original authors or source "inspiration", why so much bad ego on this "scene"?

OS_Ninja had no intention to open the source of iboot, I asked him for that on day one of iboot life and he refused.
The only reason he opened the source was that he try for like 4 months or more to fix SMBIOS on iboot, and failed, now he gets exact what he wanted..
Kabyl
post Apr 25 2011, 08:35 AM
Post #28
QUOTE (Slice @ Apr 25 2011, 07:25 AM) *
I am trying to remember the same history with Chameleon. Can you remind me? Initial sources was also steeled.

Remind me, what was stolen?
Slice
post Apr 25 2011, 10:36 AM
Post #29
QUOTE (Kabyl @ Apr 25 2011, 12:35 PM) *
Remind me, what was stolen?

I am not sure I am right so it is not correct to claim something. You seems to know better.
Netkas did not want to open his sources.
First link
http://netkas.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2007/11/05/w00t.html
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DHP
post Apr 25 2011, 10:38 AM
Post #30
I think that the best thing to do from now on is to look forward. To get stuff going. To rule out possible license issues.

But there is one particular issue I would like to see fixed, and that is when people, whoever it may concern, are using Chameleon code without sharing source code, that their topic will be closed/removed, and consistently. This will force people to open up because without testers... they get nowhere.

Maybe it is just me being naive but that's how I look at it.

Oh and happy easter!

This post has been edited by DHP: Apr 25 2011, 10:40 AM
Slice
post Apr 25 2011, 11:00 AM
Post #31
QUOTE (THe KiNG @ Apr 25 2011, 10:52 AM) *
The only reason he opened the source was that he try for like 4 months or more to fix SMBIOS on iboot, and failed, now he gets exact what he wanted..

Clover and iBoot does not intersect. Both live in own sphere.
Start iBoot after Clover and SMBIOS is OK. That's all that he needs.
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kocoman
post Apr 25 2011, 11:37 AM
Post #32
QUOTE (Slice @ Apr 25 2011, 11:00 AM) *
Clover and iBoot does not intersect. Both live in own sphere.
Start iBoot after Clover and SMBIOS is OK. That's all that he needs.


So clover is not a efi "shell"? how to boot mach_kernel with clover (I don't know and have to ask because I still not successfully boot clover yet)
NOTE:

If you can't reply, do the QUIZ on the MAIN page!!!!
Then you can reply!!

I signed up here 2 years ago, never know why I could not post, until a few days ago.
THe KiNG
post Apr 25 2011, 11:45 AM
Post #33
QUOTE (Slice @ Apr 25 2011, 02:00 PM) *
Clover and iBoot does not intersect. Both live in own sphere.
Start iBoot after Clover and SMBIOS is OK. That's all that he needs.

http://iboot-efi.svn.sourceforge.net/viewv...amp;view=markup

QUOTE
Smbios used from Clover, Guids corrections


I do know what I say...
Slice
post Apr 25 2011, 11:50 AM
Post #34
QUOTE (THe KiNG @ Apr 25 2011, 03:45 PM) *

Yes, it is my proposition what to do. He can accept or no. What I did is to exclude SMBIOS patch from iBoot to not interfere with Clover.
CODE
68    #  smbios.c
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Kabyl
post Apr 25 2011, 01:03 PM
Post #35
QUOTE (Slice @ Apr 25 2011, 11:36 AM) *
I am not sure I am right so it is not correct to claim something. You seems to know better.
Netkas did not want to open his sources.
First link
http://netkas.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2007/11/05/w00t.html

Well, that's one reason why Chameleon was born, he has nothing to do with it.
Slice
post Apr 25 2011, 01:06 PM
Post #36
QUOTE (THe KiNG @ Apr 25 2011, 10:52 AM) *
I don't get what is so hard for some people to respect the code license and add proper credits for original authors or source "inspiration", why so much bad ego on this "scene"?

If OS_Ninja return back all copyrights to originals the issue will be resolved?

QUOTE (kocoman @ Apr 25 2011, 03:37 PM) *
So clover is not a efi "shell"? how to boot mach_kernel with clover (I don't know and have to ask because I still not successfully boot clover yet)

When you see green Clover logo press arrow down and navigate to Apple's boot.efi.
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SunKi
post Apr 25 2011, 02:58 PM
Post #37
QUOTE (Slice @ Apr 25 2011, 07:06 PM) *
If OS_Ninja return back all copyrights to originals the issue will be resolved?


issue is that he did not ask for permission to publish the source code
this is one of several problems, but it prevents to solve the problem only with return of the copyright
Hagar
post Apr 25 2011, 05:48 PM
Post #38
QUOTE (Slice @ Apr 25 2011, 10:36 AM) *
I am not sure I am right so it is not correct to claim something. You seems to know better.
Netkas did not want to open his sources.
First link
http://netkas.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2007/11/05/w00t.html


http://www.projectosx.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=116

this is an old & unfinished attempt to map out these relationships.

QUOTE (гык-sse2 @ Apr 24 2011, 06:25 PM) *
To people arguing about licenses: stop punishing OS_Ninja, or we won't get anti-panic modifications. It's possible to restore the original copyright by finding the source of source, and without removing OS_Ninja's name if smth is modified inside.


QUOTE (Slice @ Apr 25 2011, 01:22 PM) *
If iPhoneTom publish his sources then we can compare what is same and what is not.


try to keep the discussion & the development separate smile.gif
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Slice
post Apr 26 2011, 08:37 AM
Post #39
Another funny story.
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=135368#
Diff file huh.gif
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<     }
<     //Slice - this is from v1.6
<     else if ((regProp = (OSData *) propTable->getObject("acpi-reg")))
<     {
<         inSpace = (IOPCIAddressSpace *) regProp->getBytesNoCopy();
<         space->s.busNum = firstBusNum();//inSpace->s.busNum; //
<         space->s.deviceNum = inSpace->s.deviceNum;
<         space->s.functionNum = inSpace->s.functionNum;
<     }
<     //
---
>     // AnV - this is from v1.6
>     } else if ((regProp = (OSData *) propTable->getObject("acpi-reg"))) {
>         inSpace = (IOPCIAddressSpace *) regProp->getBytesNoCopy();
>         space->s.busNum = firstBusNum(); //inSpace->s.busNum; //
>         space->s.deviceNum = inSpace->s.deviceNum;
>         space->s.functionNum = inSpace->s.functionNum;
>     }
>     // end of v1.6

But now AnV is more correct. Return to the topic and see my copyrights is returned. biggrin.gif
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Slice
post Jan 8 2012, 08:29 PM
Post #40
It is a question or just negative emotions? I see no significant info to answer you.
Check updates in Download section, may be some day it will works for you.
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